GLENN: Where do you think we are as a nation today? If we don’t wake up soon, we don’t turn our lives around, where do you think we are as nation?

GRAMMER: We’re in a crisis of a Civil War basically, just not a shooting one. That’s been my feeling for some time now. I was honestly, I said it years ago but I mean, the guy that did anything to really bring us together was Osama Bin Laden and that’s a pretty awful situation. And, you know, when people were going down in those planes, and I knew several people on board, they weren’t Republicans and Democrats. They were Americans. And I attended several memorials where actually they were used as opportunities to punch George Bush around and I thought, already? This is already happening? I mean, there’s a sickness. It’s like decay from the inside, and it scares the hell out of me. I mean, otherwise rational, you know, cordial human beings have lost their minds about — I recently spoke at one of these McCain campaign things and I said simply that in my community it has been impossible since George Bush was elected to have anything but a tortured and dysfunctional conversation. I mean, it’s as though we stand in completely different worlds and that does still make me nervous.

GLENN: But we do. You know, to kind of go off on your Civil War thing, I was, two weekends ago I met with a guy who was I believe the first person to say a global terror network. That was his phrase. And he said this is not — we’re treating this like a police action. This is not. This is a global terror network. And I said to him, I asked him, you know, where are we in our history, where do you think we are. And he said, people don’t understand. We’re in 1860.

GRAMMER: Oh, yeah. There you go.

GLENN: We’ve got to have a leader that steps to the plate that says united we stand, divided we fall, and can actually unite us.

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